Legislature(2007 - 2008)HOUSE FINANCE 519

03/04/2008 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Meeting Postponed to 2:00pm Today --
+ HB 330 NOXIOUS WEEDS AND INVASIVE PLANTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 336 SUSITNA HYDROELECTRIC PROJECT TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ HB 359 PROBATION AND MINOR CONSUMING TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HJR 28 CONST. AM: PRODUCTION TAX REVENUE FUND TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 28(FIN) Out of Committee
+= HB 326 NAT'L GUARD: COMMAND/ACTIVE SERVICE/PAY TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 326(FIN) Out of Committee
HOUSE BILL NO. 330                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An  Act relating  to management  of  noxious weeds  and                                                                    
     invasive  plants;  establishing  the Noxious  Weed  and                                                                    
     Invasive  Plant  Board;  and establishing  the  noxious                                                                    
     weed and invasive plant management fund.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   CRAIG  JOHNSON,   SPONSOR,  noted   that  a                                                                    
constituent in his district purchased  a strawberry plant in                                                                    
which they found  a Canadian thistle growing.   The Canadian                                                                    
thistle  is an  invasive species.   Many  types of  invasive                                                                    
plants  are prolific  and can  cause  much economic  damage.                                                                    
The State  of Alaska has  nothing in place to  address these                                                                    
types of concerns.  He  added, there are federal dollars for                                                                    
states that  have certain criteria in  place for eradicating                                                                    
invasive species:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
       Each state must have a policy in place                                                                                
       The state would be required to have a weed-                                                                           
        coordinator position                                                                                                    
       The state is required to have a board that directs                                                                    
        that position                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson added,  after statewide meetings last                                                                    
summer,  a plan  was  submitted which  allows  the State  to                                                                    
qualify for  some of those  federal monies.  He  pointed out                                                                    
that  Alaska  is in  a  unique  situation; many  states  are                                                                    
currently  spending  a  lot of  money  to  address  invasive                                                                    
plants  that  are  ruining crops  and  devastating  wildlife                                                                    
habitat.  Alaska  has not reached a  critical situation yet;                                                                    
he   worried,   however,   that  salmon   spawning   streams                                                                    
eventually would be blocked by certain species of plants.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JEANNE   OSTNES,   STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE   CRAIG   JOHNSON,                                                                    
mentioned an  event that happened  in December when  a plane                                                                    
load  of  3,000  contaminated  Christmas  trees  arrived  in                                                                    
Alaska.  The  airport did not have a specific  plan in place                                                                    
to  address  the situation.    She  warned, Alaska  needs  a                                                                    
policy in place.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ostnes  continued,  the legislation  began  as  a  bill                                                                    
through the  summer with hearings held,  attempting to build                                                                    
a board.   During  the process, it  has been  determined the                                                                    
fiscal impact to  revise regulations for creation  of a weed                                                                    
board.   The  note  has  been decreased  to  cover only  the                                                                    
coordinator position.   The ideas were  submitted during the                                                                    
statewide discussions:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
       To develop the program within the Department of                                                                       
        Natural Resources                                                                                                       
       Appoint a coordinator                                                                                                 
       Revise the regulations                                                                                                
       Develop a plan for the State                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ostnes pointed  out that  the fiscal  note was  dropped                                                                    
from $237  thousand dollars to  $80 thousand dollars  with a                                                                    
sunset  provision  for  the  position.    She  listed  tasks                                                                    
associated with the weed coordinator position.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:08:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara commented  that  the  State of  Alaska,                                                                    
Department of Transportation and  Public Facilities (DOT) is                                                                    
the largest purveyor of noxious  weeds.  He pointed out that                                                                    
Department  puts  dandelions  in  their grass  seed  in  the                                                                    
right-of-way  expansion.    He   asked  if  there  would  be                                                                    
objection  to mandating  that Department  alter its  seeding                                                                    
policy.   Representative  Johnson  noted  the importance  to                                                                    
discern that the Department is  not planting plants that are                                                                    
dangerous.   The  work  of  the board  would  be to  suggest                                                                    
regulations that require certified seed stock.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  acknowledged that  none of  those weeds                                                                    
were dangerous except  that they take away  habit for native                                                                    
plants.   He  understood that  it is  more expensive  to use                                                                    
native  seeds, as  addressed in  the  original fiscal  note.                                                                    
Representative  Johnson  reiterated  that there  are  plants                                                                    
that  are dangerous  and that  there must  be a  distinction                                                                    
between   dangerous  plants   and   natural  species   being                                                                    
replaced.  The  intention of the bill is not  to address the                                                                    
seedlings  used by  the  Department  of Transportation,  but                                                                    
address dangerous plants.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:13:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ostnes pointed  out that  59% of  the Alaska  lands are                                                                    
federal holdings, 12%  Native lands, 28% State  lands and 1%                                                                    
private.  Co-Chair Meyer inquired  if the federal government                                                                    
had a program in place.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:15:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GINO GRAZIANO,  VICE CHAIR, (TESTIFIED  VIA TELECONFERENCE),                                                                    
ALASKA  COMMITTEE  FOR  NOXIOUS WEEDS  AND  INVASIVE  PLANTS                                                                    
MANAGEMENT (CNIPM), ANCHORAGE,  directed his comments toward                                                                    
the legislative  impacts and what  has been  accomplished to                                                                    
date.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He spoke to the impacts of  invasive plants and how they are                                                                    
affecting  agriculture  as  well as  tourism,  wildlife  and                                                                    
fisheries  resource and  management.   He  pointed out  that                                                                    
Alaska is valued pristine areas  and that the noxious plants                                                                    
can  have  harmful  affects on  tourism.    Invasive  plants                                                                    
displace many  of the wildflowers  and native  useable plant                                                                    
vegetation.   Plants  such as  purple  loosestrife can  clog                                                                    
wetlands and block fish passages.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Graziano pointed out that  some states are attempting to                                                                    
restore   spawning  habit   to  comply   with  the   Federal                                                                    
Endangered  Species   Act.    As  well,   land  values  have                                                                    
diminished in  many states because of  the spotted knapweed.                                                                    
Agriculturally, it  is difficult to sell  certain parcels of                                                                    
land covered with spotted knapweed.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Graziano agreed  with Representative  Johnson regarding                                                                    
the large amounts other states  are spending to control many                                                                    
of these plant species.  He  pointed out that there are over                                                                    
ten locations in Alaska where  the spotted knapweed has been                                                                    
spotted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Graziano referenced purple  loose strife, which recently                                                                    
was added  to Alaska's  noxious weed list.   The  plant does                                                                    
migrate  into water  bodies, clogging  those areas  and that                                                                    
nothing else  can grow in there.   Much needs to  be done in                                                                    
the State to prevent it from spreading.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:20:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Graziano referenced leafy spurge,  a plant currently not                                                                    
present in  Alaska.  The  plant is  toxic to stock  and wild                                                                    
life.   It costs  agricultural producers  and tax  payers in                                                                    
the Dakotas,  Montana and Wyoming over  $144 million dollars                                                                    
per  year  to  manage.    The sap  can  cause  blisters  and                                                                    
blindness.   It is not  found in  Alaska yet but  could find                                                                    
its  way to  the  State.   It currently  does  exist in  the                                                                    
Yukon, Canada.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze  encouraged   more  testimony  regarding                                                                    
conservation  issues &  solutions  since problems  statewide                                                                    
have been identified.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Graziano  hoped  that   creating  a  State  coordinator                                                                    
position would bring Alaska into  to a participating roll in                                                                    
invasive plant  management, by  developing a  strategic plan                                                                    
including  all the  necessary State  agencies including  the                                                                    
Department of  Transportation, Department  of Fish  and Game                                                                    
and Department of Environmental  Conservation.  He added the                                                                    
roll of  the position  would share strategic  information to                                                                    
locate  infestations   of  weeds  and  then   determine  the                                                                    
necessary  prevention  tactics.   The  position  could  make                                                                    
recommendations  for seeds,  not including  invasive plants.                                                                    
Current regulations are out of date.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:24:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Graziano advised  that the direction must  come from the                                                                    
State  through  a  strategic plan.    The  weed  coordinator                                                                    
position   should   work   with  the   already   established                                                                    
organizations  to  help  support  existing  weed  management                                                                    
efforts.   There are federal  dollars available  through the                                                                    
Noxious  Weed Act.   He  urged  a State  program to  support                                                                    
those efforts.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:25:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara   asked   about  the   Department   of                                                                    
Transportation's   involvement  with   the  concern.     Mr.                                                                    
Graziano responded  that the Department  is a key  player in                                                                    
the  issues and  should be  given direction  on how  best to                                                                    
provide safety on the roadsides.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  inquired if the Department  had planted                                                                    
anything that  concerned CNIPM.  Mr.  Graziano replied white                                                                    
sweet  clover and  reed canary  grass have  been planted  by                                                                    
Department   of   Transportation   and   Public   Facilities                                                                    
contractors  along the  roadside, both  of which  proven are                                                                    
proven to infest riparian areas  on the Kenai peninsula.  He                                                                    
added,  the  Peninsula  is  working  to  develop  management                                                                    
strategies to address these concerns.   The plant has proven                                                                    
to cause  siltation of the  gravel bars that salmon  use for                                                                    
spawning.   He listed a  number of noxious weeds  present on                                                                    
the roadsides.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:27:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ERIC  WADE,   EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,  ALASKA   ASSOCIATION  OF                                                                    
CONSERVATION  DISTRICTS, JUNEAU,  spoke  in  support of  the                                                                    
legislation  echoing  comments made  by  Mr.  Graziano.   He                                                                    
pointed out  that the weed  coordinator position  would work                                                                    
with various  conservation districts,  departments statewide                                                                    
and the  science community.   He urged that action  be taken                                                                    
by the Legislature to address the concerns.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze pointed  out  that there  has been  very                                                                    
little leadership  coming from  the Division  of Agriculture                                                                    
management team.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson  reminded the Committee that  many of                                                                    
the testifiers  are passionate about  the issue.   He stated                                                                    
that the bill brings  together interested voices, helping to                                                                    
create a plan and providing a small funding stipend.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:31:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRYCE  WRIGLEY, (TESTIFIED  VIA TELECONFERENCE),  PRESIDENT,                                                                    
ALASKA  FARM  BUREAU,  WASILLA,  spoke  in  support  of  the                                                                    
legislation, stressing  the importance of  putting resources                                                                    
toward  such a  proposal.   He  urged  greater support  from                                                                    
State agencies.   He  commented that  if action  is delayed,                                                                    
the State  will need  much more  funding than  the requested                                                                    
$80 thousand dollars.   He attested to  the effectiveness to                                                                    
early  and  aggressive response  and  urged  passage of  the                                                                    
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:33:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHELE HEBERT, (TESTIFIED  VIA TELECONFERENCE), CHAIR, LAND                                                                    
RESOURCES  PROGRAM  COOPERATIVE   EXTENSION,  UNIVERSITY  OF                                                                    
ALASKA-FAIRBANKS, spoke in favor of  HB 330.  She noted that                                                                    
within  the  agricultural  community, the  State  should  be                                                                    
cautious  not   to  leave  out  invasive   insects  &  plant                                                                    
diseases,  both   of  which  fall  under   the  category  of                                                                    
agricultural pests.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:36:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LORI  ZAMSEIL,  (TESTIFIED  VIA  TELECONFERENCE),  COMMITTEE                                                                    
AGAINST  NOXIOUS WEEDS  IN  THE  NORTH (CANWIN),  ANCHORAGE,                                                                    
testified in favor  of the legislation.   She emphasized the                                                                    
severity  of  the  problem, explaining  that  passage  would                                                                    
bring  federal  money into  the  State  for coordination  of                                                                    
services  to   address  the  issues  in   an  organized  and                                                                    
coordinated  effort.   She reiterated  the  urgency for  the                                                                    
legislation to quickly pass.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:39:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PUBLIC TESTIMONY CLOSED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  stated  that  SB   330  would  be  HELD  in                                                                    
Committee to create a new work draft.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas mentioned  concerns involving invasive                                                                    
marine plants.  He asked if  the Department of Fish and Game                                                                    
handles  those concerns.    Representative Johnson  reported                                                                    
the problem  is new  and quite  complicated.   He maintained                                                                    
that starting the process with  plants is more doable during                                                                    
a 90-day  session.  He  hoped to see language  expanded down                                                                    
the road to address all invasive species.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas  thought that  more than  one position                                                                    
would be needed to handle  the load.  Representative Johnson                                                                    
explained how  the clearing house  is anticipated to  be set                                                                    
up, hiring a  weed coordinator and appointing a  board to go                                                                    
after   the  federal   dollars.     He  believed   that  the                                                                    
legislation provides  a reasonable process.   Representative                                                                    
Thomas pointed out that in  one season in Juneau alone, over                                                                    
6,000 gallons of Round Up was sold at Costco.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:47:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ostnes referenced the chart, "Explosive Growth"                                                                             
contained in member's packets.  (Copy on File).  She                                                                            
maintained that currently, Alaska is in a lag phase.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HB 330 was HELD in Committee for further consideration.                                                                         

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